Things you learn on the grape vine

After spending some time with the Thunderbirds I learn't a few snippets of useful info to store away.

• Club H plates (Historic) are going to be targeted in a crack down as to many are being used for vehicles that don't fit the class and should be under SR (Street Rod)
• You can bring in a fully customised Hot Rod without hassle if you have the correct documentation
• PRE 1988 VEHICLE
• Can prove with receipts or magazine article that the modifications were done pre '88
• Not all Hoons or Petrol Heads are young men or in fact men at all……The F100 Pick Up belongs to one of the wives!!

Meeting these guys added to a great weekend away.





Club Plate end with a letter classification for the relevant registration class.

SR - Street Rod

H - Historic

Motorcycle Plate  - Veteran & Vintage I think have a number classification  (2 & 3) instead of a letter

This one I think is a personalised plate made to look like a Club Plate.

Historic & veteran cars nnnnn·H From 1959 to 2002 there were colourful club plates provided by the club and was manufactured with either Vintage Car or Veteran Car legend on top. They were withdrawn from use in 2002 and the current H series is in use. For vehicles used/registered for historical interest and not used as regular transport.

The Victorian club permit scheme allows members of car clubs (including motorcycle, trailer/caravan and machinery clubs) that are recognised by VicRoads to make limited use of historic vehicles on the road network.

A club permit can be issued to the following vehicles in the following categories:

• Veteran vehicles – manufactured before 1 January 1919;

• Vintage vehicles – manufactured after 31 December 1918 and before 1 January 1931

• Classic and Historic vehicles - manufactured after 31 December 1930, but more than 25 years before the date of the application for a club permit.

These categories can include trailers and modified vehicles such as street rods. Vehicles which are replicas of vehicles in the above-mentioned categories may also be issued with a club permit.

As you will see Vicroads classifications and paperwork is inconsistent…..The above taken from their website only shows three separate classifications an goes on to say Modified Vehicles and Street Rods, and Replicas, etc are included in these groups.

Not quite so….Street Rods have a separate plate and require different certification to comply with see below from the application form.

Applying for a club permit 
To apply for a Club permit you will need to complete a Club Permit Application form together with:
 

• written verification by the club secretary (or person authorised by VicRoads) that the applicant for the club permit is a member of the car club
• in the case of a club historic vehicle that is not a street rod, a current certificate of roadworthiness or a letter from a scrutineer authorised by the club, stating that the vehicle is safe for use on the road
• in the case an application made in respect of a street rod, that is a vehicle modified in excess of the level prescribed in the Vehicle Standards Information No.8. (VSI8) document [PDF, 279 KB, 8pp.], a Street Rod Inspection certificate issued by any VASS Signatory [DOC. 1113KB, 7pp]
• Club Permit fee - refer to Permits (Club, Rally and Unregistered Vehicle Permit

Oil Stained Brain - 2012 Premiere

Had to stop in and check out the first Oil Stained Brain show for an hour before heading off to Halls Gap for the weekend.

Captain America where it all started

Seen Parts of this bike getting made on the web, which made it strange seeing it in the flesh

Dallas's bike  previously seen  on the blog. I really like this bike maybe because he used some of the ideas I had drawn up to use on my build……Only difference is he built it while I'm still talkin about it…….Soon to Change!!

For all those Happy Triumph riders..Such fun loving fellas ha ha ha ha

Sponsors Merch - Independent Parts & KDS

Thought this was cool to see in your rearview mirror.

Ollie aka Ol'Fart from Independent Parts Honda Four

Art from Kustom Lane on the walls.

Ruiners - Ran's Bikes

Bike from the Rockers Classic Motorcycles another sponsor

Seen this WLA before and I still Love this bike.  It looks so cool and has leaks eve ry where.  Patina city!! Love to see it parked amongst the billet bikes.

XS650 Tracker

XS650 Cafe

no seat bike???

Visitors bikes

Stayed with the Thunderbirds in Halls Gap…Four of the hod rods that were gathered up there.  I loved the 56 F100 of course. I was liking it so much I forgot to snap a shot on the iphone.

Second Edition ADRs 1 January 1969 VALID or NOT?

Second Edition Australian Design Rules

Related Links
Australian Design Rules
Australian Design Rule Development Program and Public Comment
Australian Design Rules on CD-ROM Subscription/Purchase
Second Edition Australian Design Rules
Third Edition Australian Design Rules
Vehicles & the Environment

The Second Edition Australian Design Rules (ADRs) are national standards for vehicles that first came into effect on 1 January 1969 as endorsed by the then Australian Transport Advisory Council (ATAC). The ATAC recommended the Second Edition ADRs to the Commonwealth, State and Territory Governments for vehicles being supplied to the Australian market. The Second Edition ADRs only applied to vehicles manufactured from 1 January 1969 onwards and were selectively applied by each state and territory. From the time of 1 July 1988 onwards, the Second Edition ADRs were increasingly superseded by the Third Edition ADRs.

For vehicles manufactured up until July 1989, the application of the ADRs is the responsibility of the state and territory governments. Vehicle users should consult with their state or territory transport authority for the Second and Third Edition ADRs that apply to these vehicles.

For vehicles manufactured after July 1989, the application of the ADRs is the responsibility of the Australian Government under the Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989. Vehicle users should consult with this department for the Second and Third Edition ADRs that apply to these vehicles.

Do we require Indicators??

Direction Turn Signal Lamps [PDF: 245 KB] 6 1 Jan 1973  ---- Motorcycles N/A
Direction Turn Signal Lamps [PDF: 239 KB] 6a 1 Jul 1981   ---- Motorcycles N/A

According to the above ADRs no we don't! to pass engineering you need to comply with ADRs or (equivalent special interest standards)

Here is where it gets interesting to get a RWC
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Anything post June 1975 does now require indicators.


By the way, what is schedule 8 (RS(V)R's)??????   Not Easy to find!
Road Safety (Vehicle) Regulations YEAR??- SCHEDULE 8

In this Schedule- RS(D)R means the Road Safety (Drivers) Regulations 2009;
RS(TM)R means the Road Safety (Traffic Management) Regulations 2009;
RS(V)R means the Road Safety (Vehicles) Regulations 2009;
RR means the Road Safety Road Rules 2009;
RSA means the Road Safety Act 1986;
TCMA means the Transport (Compliance and Miscellaneous) Act 1983.

What are they for…..well they are the infringements/citations used to book you and gather revenue. These came in to effect in 1999 and revised in 2009
legislation.vic.gov.au 99-054sr.pdf

Division 11—Direction indicator lights

101. Direction indicator lights on motor vehicles
(1) A motor vehicle with 4 or more wheels that was built after August 1966 or a left-hand drive motor vehicle must have—
(a) a pair of direction indicator lights fitted on, or towards, its front that face forwards; and
(b) a pair of direction indicator lights fitted on, or towards, its rear that face backwards.
(2) [b]A motor vehicle with less than 4 wheels that was built after June 1975 must have—
(a) a pair of direction indicator lights fitted on, or towards, its front that face forwards; and
(b) a pair of direction indicator lights fitted on, or towards, its rear that face backwards.[/b]
(3) A motor vehicle that is not required to have direction indicator lights may have—
(a) 1 or more pairs of direction indicator lights that are visible from both the front and rear of the vehicle; or
(b) both—
(i) a pair of direction indicator lights fitted on, or towards, its front that face forwards; and
(ii) a pair of direction indicator lights fitted on, or towards, its rear that face backwards.

Goes on further about director, position, and operation of indicators.

I have been told that ADRs trump any local state regulations, so technically you only need to meet ADRs..or state legislation where there are no relevant ADRS. That came about from a discussion of NSW police book bikes off the showroom floor and slapping defect notices on them and it was deemed the bikes did meet ADRs and the state rules used for the defects were over ruled.  Accuracy of this is still to be determined by you.

Real Question is what do we actually have to comply with and who can tell us????

May be of benefit to check these:
Motorcycle And Moped Noise [PDF: 551 KB] 39 1 Mar 1985
Motorcycle Noise [PDF: 959 KB] 39a 1 Mar 1988

ICV VS Modified Vehicle

In terms of a Motorbike…… My understanding is if the frame has previously been registered in Australia and has a number stamped on the neck along with a compliance plate. As long as those two items are intact it is deemed a modified vehicle.

A modified vehicle must comply with the original year of compliances ADRs. Usually the year of manufacture but not always. I got caught here as my bike is a 1976 according to the manufactures list of numbers, however it is listed as a 1978 according to it's compliance plate.  Maybe we got the old superseded models dumped on Aussie showrooms back in the 70's.

If you have a complete new frame then it is deemed and ICV and most comply with the year of COMPLETION and TESTINGS ADRs!  So you could get caught out if your build takes too long and ADRs get changed.


There seems to be a lot of misinformation circulating on what is or isn't required what is legal and not so much.

The reasons being are partly due to the information changing over time, being only relevant in certain circumstances and having exemptions. Being open to authorities interpretations, or being written for cars etc and attempting to be applied to bikes.  Also the boys in blue only get something like a 3hr training session on this so often can't be expected to know the specifics in depth. They have a lot of law to try and remember.

Best advice when dealing with the police, RWC assessor,  or any other relevant body is to know your shit better than they do and have printed laminated copies of the rules specific to your build that maybe questioned tucked up in your tool roll.  At the first sign of debate rip out said papers and end the debate on the spot and put whoever is questioning the legitimacy of your mods back in their box.

Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 (VSB 14)

LINK to VSB Source

National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP)

The National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (VSB 14) has been prepared by members of the Australian Motor Vehicle Certification Board Working Party in consultation with industry, user groups, government agencies and individuals with an interest in modifying light vehicles and/or building individually constructed light vehicles (ICVs).
VSB 14 is a "live" document and will continue to be revised and updated as required.
The documents listed below form Version 2 of VSB 14 and are now available for free download in PDF format.
VSB 14 essentially provides the technical requirements that need to be met when modifying or constructing a vehicle. It does not cover the administrative requirements of each State and Territory.
Administrative requirements include, but are not limited to:

• Registration processes;
• Fees for processes such as registration, issue of temporary permits, vehicle inspections; applications for approval to modify, applications for exemptions etc.;
• Determination of the date of manufacture for Individually Constructed Vehicles;
• Processes for submitting applications; and
• Administration and management of modification schemes including the administration of signatories.

The Preface and Introduction to VSB 14 provide the necessary background information to assist users in understanding how VSB 14 is administered by the Registration Authorities across Australia. Understanding and following these requirements reduces the likelihood of having a vehicle rejected by a Registration Authority.
Prospective constructors or modifiers should contact the Registration Authority in the jurisdiction in which a vehicle is to be registered or modified, to determine the most up to date information about the administrative arrangements that may be in force.
Where a jurisdiction is unable to nationally recognise an element of VSB 14, the individual difference/s are highlighted within VSB 14. In these instances, users should contact the responsible Registration Authority for further advice.

VSB 14 Documents

• NCOP1 Preface V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 83 KB]
• NCOP2 Introduction V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 142 KB]
• NCOP3 Section LA Engine V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 218 KB]
• NCOP4 Section LB Transmission V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 131 KB]
• NCOP5 Section LG Brakes V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 180 KB]
• NCOP6 Section LH Body Modifications V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 993 KB]
• NCOP7 Section LK Seating and Occupant Protection V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 1729 KB]
• NCOP8 Section LL Motorcycles V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 281 KB]
• NCOP9 Section LM Fuel Systems V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 243 KB]
• NCOP10 Section LO ADRS ICVs V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 814 KB]
• NCOP10A LO1-3 ICV Checklist V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 144 KB]
• NCOP10B LO1-4 ICV Checklist V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 122 KB]
• NCOP10C LO7 ICV Motorcycle Checklist V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 193 KB]
• NCOP10D LO1-2 Second Edition ADRs Checklist V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 127 KB]
• NCOP11 Section LS Suspension and Steering V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 1319 KB]
• NCOP12 Section LT Test Procedures V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 564 KB]
• NCOP13 Section LV Alternative Power Units V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 90 KB]
• NCOP14 Guidelines Electric Drive V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 307 KB]
• NCOP15 Trike Guidelines V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 781 KB]
• NCOP15A LEM Trike Checklist V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 139 KB]
• NCOP15B LEP Trike Checklist V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 146 KB]
• NCOP16 Section LZ Appendices V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 437 KB]
• NCOPC1 Cover Page VSB14 V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 357 KB]
• NCOPC2 Cover Page Guidelines Electric Drive V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 972 KB]
• NCOPC3 Cover Page Trike Guidelines V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 386 KB]

Queries regarding VSB 14 should be directed to your local Registration Authority.